Soul Ages & Sex

Our sexual energy can lead us to jump to some of the most mayaesque
conclusions.

Yes, sex can be healing...yes, sex can have all of the manifestations of
l.s.d...yes, having sex leads to a myriad of results...some
Taoistic....some fatal.

The different Soul Ages handle sex differently, just as they handle
everything differently.

As a general rule, Old Souls seem to be more hip about sex than younger
souls...they also seem to be more hip about other drugs, in that i've
never known an Old junkie who thought that, by taking drugs, he was
reinventing the wheel.

Meeeeeeeeeee?....oh, i think sex should be legalized, and your letters
of protest will stand little chance of changing my mind.

agape,
uncle carl

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i have a different view on this...i am having a difficult time with old souls being more hip on sex...i have met an old soul and i can not get anywhere with him...does "hip" mean more wise to the fact that sex is just physical or more spiritual? now I'm really confused on this issue...:)

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I think you would find as a general principle (with obviously 
some exceptions) that the older a soul gets, the less that old soul is willing to 
experience the soap operas that are involved in relationships that are less 
than ideal. The old soul has graduated from mature and isn't interested in 
learning any more fine points in how to make a lousy relationship better. So your 
old soul is generally, before getting into sex with someone, going to have a 
good look at whether the upside of having good sex with someone they are 
attracted to is offset by a bigger downside. That would be getting entangled with 
the person's energy and life situation and whatever incompatibilities and 
disharmonies there are, and potential emotional pain that goes with breaking off the 
relationship. 

Old souls are pretty independent and want to do whatever it is they want to 
do without having to make large accomodations in life for someone who is not 
pretty comfortably in sync. The old soul uses considerable ability and wisdom to 
check out how a possible relationship would play out before they get too far 
into it, and they are better at this than younger souls. Old souls tend to be 
pretty good at detecting and avoiding energy-draining entanglements.

Whatever "hip" means is in the mind of the one who uses it. It's very 
relative and not absolute.

All the best, Ed

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Maybe I've misuderstood old soul then. I've been told I am not 
one,  but every single possibility for each relationship - sexual or 
 otherwise - goes through my head on a constant basis. I'm always 
playing with events and results. It's funny, then, that a friend 
who  calls himself an old soul is fighting much harder to keep our dead 
 friendship floundering along than I am, and he doesn't actually 
see that the biggest possibility is that it will roast in the sun like 
dead fish on the beach. Every time I try to break it off, he sends 
me a note designed to make me want to continue to fight for it. We 
were attracted to each other sexually in bursts here and there - 
mostly when our defenses were down, but the level of mistrust  between us 
is astounding. Our relationship is a whole lot less 
than ideal. Nobody thinks we should continue - not even me - but he 
keeps wanting to try. Because I care about him a whole lot, I entertain 
this even though I know it won't make it. This is so not old soul 
of him. So. I have to ask. What would motivate an old soul to keep 
trying to repair a mortally wounded friendship? I'm sitting on the 
fence with this one - not investing too much more of myself until 
figuere out what exactly he wants of me. You guys know more about 
this kind of thing than I do.

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Greetings

I don't think you can equate everything that happens in life to the 
Michael teachings. Old souls can have issues and weird personality 
quirks just like anyone else, and can sometimes appear to have a one-
way ticket on the Disoriented Express.  

Concerning your friend, perhaps he's hopelessly in love, and you 
feel hopelessly loved. On the otherhand, maybe he just liked the 
sex and doesn't want to let that go, or he's insecure and although 
the relationship isn't perfect he feels he won't be able to find 
anything better. A number of different factors could be at play 
here.  

Why do you consider the friendship to be mortally wounded? Just 
curious.  

Regarding the recent posts on "sex," this is such a subjective 
experience that there will never be a definitive statement on it. 
For some it represents a grand opportunity for essence contact, but 
that's certainly not true for everybody. I, for example, can 
experience essence contact with someone while engaged in mundane 
activities like watching TV with them. And while some claim to 
achieve higher centers through sex, I can easily do that by 
listening to music or reading poetry.  

Sex can be many things, from an expression of love, to some fun time 
in the sack while rehearsing the mattress mambo. I don't consider 
it the end-all or be-all. It's simply another pleasurable aspect of 
living. Some will rank it as the utmost priority in life, while 
others will take it in stride and view it as a pleasant diversion.  
Personally, I see it as more of a diversion. I don't need to 
excrete bodily fluid in order to feel connected to someone. ;-p

Ok, ok...before someone yells, "Dave, but what about the intimacy 
that's shared and the sensual feelings that are expressed?"  

Well, of course. I enjoy all of those things. It's all good.  

Best,
Dave

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> Maybe I've misuderstood old soul then. I've been told I am not one, 
> but every single possibility for each relationship - sexual or 
> otherwise - goes through my head on a constant basis. I'm always 
> playing with events and results. It's funny, then, that a friend who 
> calls himself an old soul is fighting much harder to keep our dead 
> freindship floundering along than I am, and he doesn't actually see 
> that the biggest posiblilty is that it will roast in the sun like a 
> dead fish on the beach. Every time I try to break it off, he sends 
> me a note designed to make me want to continue to fight for it. We 
> were attracted to each other sexually in bursts here and there - 
> mostly when our defenses were down, but the level of mistrust 
> between us is astounding. Our relationship is a whole lot less than 
> ideal. Nobody thinks we should continue - not even me - but he keeps 
> wanting to try. Because I care about him a whole lot, I entertain 
> this even though I know it won't make it. This is so not old soul of 
> him. So. I have to ask. What would motivate an old soul to keep 
> trying to repair a mortally wounded friendship? I'm sitting on the 
> fence with this one - not investing too much more of myself until I 
> figuer out what exactly he wants of me. You guys know more about 
> this kind of thing than I do.

On the one hand you and we are theorizing about features of the 
soul ages, but that is just a distracting sidelight. You seem to be very 
interested in the question of how to handle the relationship with this one guy. 
Whatever you do, remember that even if you had never heard of soul ages or the 
Michael teachings you would have the same choices to make.

The guy is obviously draining your energy by "cording" you. We can theorize 
about how you might possibly have karma or agreements of some sort with him 
that keeps the thing dragging on. I'd guess no major karma and especially sex 
karma since there seems to be an absence of the compelling emotional pull that 
karma has. Maybe you have some soul agreement with him to have some sort of 
relationship other than sexual--if you do, it will probably happen and feel okay. 
Maybe you have some sort of agreement or sequence about control, his trying to 
control you and your needing to learn to not let him control you. In all 
probability you have plenty of past life experiences with him and these could have 
left both of you wanting to set up a certain life situation or relationship 
scenario and get it right, better than how it happened in some past life.

All of this leads to basics: figure out your position and communicate it to 
him with love and integrity. It will be better for him if you do this than if 
you string him along with a distorted idea of what your feelings and intentions 
are. 

~Maybe~ he is a con artist selling you on how old a soul he is. Decent people 
of good will who like each other could never say "..but the level of mistrust 
between us is astounding." They would communicate until the trust was there. 
He looks to be devious and hiding stuff. Intimacy with such a person would be 
impossible until he changes a lot.

You could get a spiritual healer to de-cord you from his energy if this 
doesn't clear up.

All the best, Ed

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> I don't think you need to have love or be in a
> committed relationship to have great sex. Sex is, at
> it's basic level, a primal physical function. Our
> culture has put a lot of moral woo woo around sex,
> especially directed at women, which is just an
> incredible bunch of hooey.  
>  
IMHO infant soul sex is like rape, baby soul sex is for making 
babies, and young soul sex is more complicated, and all of them probably feel 
it is "good sex" if there is some physical attraction, friendship, even love 
involved. If those parts aren't present maybe one partner at most considers it 
"good". But I doubt that many of them experience what you describe below

> I do think that if you have a intimate, emotional
> connection to another person that sex can serve to
> enhance the relationship and, in turn, enhance the
> sexual experience to a great degree. 
>  
> There seems to be a sort of mental/telepathic feedback
> loop during sex that occurs between two people that
> have more than a cursory connection. As in one
> partner's thoughts and emotions directly affect the
> other and vice-versa. When there's that, (and along
> with it trust, openness and communication)...man, sex
> can be really good. There isn't anything better in the
> world.
>  
Exactly, that's what intimacy is about, and my point is that 
older souls who have enjoyed that are not happy to settle for less on a regular 
basis. Personally I'd consider it rather degrading. If I am going to get in bed 
with someone I would want to be very close and intimate without walls and 
separations, and this energy blending and exchange is of senior priority to 
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